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A quick update: I *do* want to start using runtime4, and on a technical level that's no problem. However on Steam the game is configured to use Sniper/rt3 because that's what the current release uses (which runtime the Steam client uses is configured on the backend). I like to run a beta branch on Steam alongside the main release, while I work on updates, because it's great for getting player feedback and adding it in. The problem comes in when I try updating the beta branch to rt4 - linux builds won't work on the beta branch because the game is still configured for Sniper. If I change the game config to rt4 then the beta will work but the current release stops working because it needs Sniper. It's a bit of a chicken - egg situation 🙄

I've actually highlighted this as an issue over on Valve's github, to see if they can allow different runtimes on different branches. The issue is here if you're interested in tracking it: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/issues/863

Here's hoping something comes of it!

The answer to that would have to be a very strong "maybe" 😅 - I'll certainly look into it, but I'd also have to update the actual Steam build too, which won't happen over night unfortunately. If you're comfortable with compiling it yourself though, you can get the source here: https://github.com/fallahn/crogine/releases/tag/golf-v1.22.2 and build it specifically for your distro.

Sorry, this wasn't intended to be misleading. Although it *does* state that it's built with Sniper further down the page I can see that it would be difficult to notice, so I've added it to the top of the page too.

Unfortunately, with as many distros as there are of linux, using Sniper seems like the only reasonable compromise for compatibility. If you prefer you can target your specific platform by building the game from source: https://github.com/fallahn/crogine/releases/tag/golf-v1.22.2

Thank you! 😁

No problem! I try to give everyone the same experience regardless of where they purchase from. The only difference is that the Steam version (including the DRM free version on Steam) may be a little more up to date than on itch, though only with very small fixes/patches - as it is easier to push updates over Steam than it is on itch. For example the current Steam version includes a jewel case print out in case you want to make a CD version of the game 😅 - this will of course be included in the next big update on itch.

Thanks! I use libsdl to roll my own engine 😁 https://github.com/fallahn/crogine

Hi! Thanks, I'm not looking for music right now, but if that changes in the future I'll bear you in mind! 😁

Thank you! :D :D 

There's an Itch page for the DLC now :) - Also includes a Steam key! /__site/fallahn.itch.io/super-video-golf-adventurer-dlc

Of course! I appreciate your support either way, thank you :)

I'll take a look at setting up an itch page this weekend for the DLC - hopefully I can include Steam keys with it too.

Hi! I've not figured out the best way yet as itch doesn't really have a good mechanism for selling DLC (I guess I could just make a page with a zip file to download) - although if you redeem the Steam key which came with the itch version and then get the DLC, you can copy the DLC folder to the itch version directory, and the game will find it.

Of course, I understand that this isn't ideal if you don't want to use Steam at all, but FWIW the Steam download also includes the itch/non-DRM version in the install directory. It's usually more up to date than the itch download too (and also has a beta version), as it's easier to push incremental updates to Steam than it is to itch.

there's a 0.001% chance perhaps - I haven't even built the game engine on Android for years, it probably needs a *lot* of work to get it running. Never say never though...

Thanks, I used this in my game - /__site/fallahn.itch.io/scrub . The paypal link seems to be broken though? 🤔

Thanks for this - just what I was looking for! I've used it in my game Scrub: /__site/fallahn.itch.io/scrub  😁

Hi! Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying the game 😁 Yes, I'm still updating it, and I'm always happy to hear feedback. I'll try to answer each of your points here, but if you're on Steam (you can claim a Steam key with your itch download) we'd love to see you in our community chat: https://s.team/chat/ERNurHg8 where many of us get together to talk about new features or things that could improve the game. We also have a weekly online game every Sunday if that's something you would be interested in. Back to your comments:

1) I agree with this, and I did experiment with it. However I couldn't get it looking the way I wanted. I might try again at some point though.

2) Someone else has suggested this in the past. I've made notes as to how it might be done, but on a technical level it's actually quite difficult because of the multiplayer networking. Even when you play single player the game still creates a local server, so it's always 'multiplayer' even if there's only one person playing, if you see what I mean. The trees and shrubs are generated in a pseudo-random way on the client each time, so you never eally get exactly the same trees every time you play. It also means that in a network game everyone has slightly different trees (you just don't notice if you can't see the other player's computer). The server, however, which performs all the physics and collision has no trees at all, because they were intended as purely a visual effect - and this is why there's no collision. Maybe I should have thought about it in the beginning (but to be honest I never thought the game would get this far... it was just a hobby), but to add tree collision I'd have to completely rework the server side code, and then find some way to sync it with all of the clients. So it's *technically* possible, but it's also a lot of work, and I'd like to put the effort into other features for now. Maybe one day in the future 😁

3) Yeah, I'm a better programmer than an artist. Although it could be a scaling issue with the textures used to show the faces in the editor. I'll make a note to look into it.

4) I might look into this. I'll have to put it to community vote first though - when I messed with the wind in one update there was a lot of confusion as to why the game felt like it had changed 😅 I do like the idea of a damp green affecting the putt. If you set the weather to 'showers' it will switch between raining and being sunny while you are playing (so it's not always raining).

5) Bunkers and long grass both affect the the distance of your stroke. The top right corner of the screen also has an up or down arrow indicating the ball's lie when you're in the sand. There's a guide here which explains how it all works in detail: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2910207511

6) I did consider adding this berfore, but there was a lot of push back from the community. Although I think that maybe now you are also for adding it, maybe I'll try again 😅

7) I'm not sure which score you mean, but at the bottom of the screen you will see numbers appear which are XP that has just been awarded. You can see your round score at any time by pressing Tab or the back/option button on your gamepad.

8) The career mode should take you through every single hole on each course. The courses are split into 'leagues', and each league is played on 2 courses. When you complete the first league and finish in the top 5 the next league opens up along with the next 2 courses, and so on. When you have unlocked all the leagues you will have played all of the courses.

9) I agree with this, but the celebrations are limited to my resources. For instance all of the announcer voices are from the 'Super Golf Announcer Pack' here on itch. There are fireworks, although those are reserved for a hole in one 😁.

10) Replays and being able to save them have been requested a few times. Again this is down to being a technically challenging thing to add, especially with the networking. I've thought hard about how I might add it, and I do have some designs so it might get added in the future, but I couldn't say when.

11) I think the nearest to this is the 'awesome shot' callout, which you get when making a powerful and accurate shot. It does mix it with some other random voices though so it always says something a bit different each time.

12) As you gain XP and start to level up you'll start to get access to more clubs with a longer range (there's an explanation of that in the guide I linked above). When you have the 'pro' clubs you'll find that a par 5 eagle is possible with, as you say, the right wind conditions (and even a par 5 albatross on hole 15 of course 12!).

13) You know I never thought of it like that but you're quite right. For now though you should be able to see all of that together on the scoreboard. I'll make a note to look at rearranging the layout to something more sensible.

14) I actually thought they kind of were! I've tried to take influences from around the world for the different courses, hence the desert and the beach, but there are also the mountains/cherry blossom courses, and course 12 is meant to be quite hilly and stoney. I do have some more ideas in the works for future courses though, so I'll definitely bear it in mind when designing them.

15) The character will rotate when aiming but not until you reach the edge of the aiming cone (although in hindsight I don't really know why I did it like this 😅). If you hold the aim button the character will eventually do a complete 360 turn. You can also rotate the camera with 3 & 4 on your keyboard, or the right thumbstick on your controller. (You can also switch to the drone camera or a free camera by pressing 1 or 2, or Up or Down on the d-pad)

16) The game sound be packed with ambient noises - in fact I went to great lengths to make sure they work well if you have surround sound speakers, or HTRF capable headphones. Double check the environment sounds aren't turned down - you can either change the volume in the options menu, or if you press F1 to open the console and click on the Audio tab there are sliders for the different audio effects volumes.

17) There are a few animals in the game. For instance the desert course (course 10) has grazing sheep scattered around it. There are also birds which fly away when the ball lands in the bushes. There's always room for more animals though, so I'll look at adding some in the future 😁

18) Saving has always been a problem when it comes to cheating. Originally there was no opportunity to save at all, as the Steam version has competitive online leaderboards which could be otherwise cheated. In the end I compromised where you can only save in Career mode and only score on the leaderboards in freeplay, where you can't save the game. However if you're playing the version without leaderboards I guess this doesn't make much sense. Unfortunately the game requries a service like Steam to support leaderboards, as renting my own servers is just too expensive for a hobby game.

19) The above applies for online games too I guess. Without, as you say, special servers to facilitate match making it can be difficult to set up an online game. Again, the Steam version doesn't have this problem, you can click on your friends (or join a group like the Super Video Clubhouse) and get into an online game easily.

20) The shop and stats have been suggested before. I'd like to add both, however the main problem with the shop is that it would take weeks or even months just to make all the items to put in it. For now I need to prioritise my time on other parts of the game.

21) This is a nice idea actually - although as I mentioned earlier you will get longer clubs, all the way up to 260 eventually. It could work as a combination though.

I hope that answers some of your questions! Thanks for the feedback, I do take it all seriously, even though you probably won't see any suggestions appearing over night. As I say, we'd love to see you on Steam https://s.team/chat/ERNurHg8 but if not do make sure to check back on this page where I'll be posting new about any upcoming updates.

Cheers!

Thanks! 😃

Thank you! 😁

Thanks! The style is inspired by this palette: https://lospec.com/palette-list/colordome-32

I'm away from my linux box atm - but you can try this: use readelf to check the rpath of golf (it should be the lib directory). If it's not you can use chrpath or patchelf to fix it.

Or you can try installing the libraries to somewhere in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH

Failing that the Windows version *should* work under Wine.

Failing that you can redeem the Steam key from the download page - the Steam version has a native linux build.

Thank you! :D

Yes! All updates are free once you bought the game. Simply go to the link in the original email you received to get the new download. If you don't have the link anymore you can request it again here: /docs/buying/already-bought

I've included a new linux native build in the 1.14 update - hopefully it works better for you! If not I have a friend helping me out getting a native build running in Steam Runtime which should make a better distributable. Fingers crossed 🤞

No no, thank you! :D I've added the connect command to the console, which will be included in the next update (due out pretty soon). I've also worked on fixing up the linux build, so if I can get the thing to package properly there'll be a native version with the next release too! (Though not the Steam version unfortunately).

Hey, thanks! Sorry you're having that problem - I have to admit I haven't tested it in Wine for a while. I'll look into adding some console commands for connecting - that's a good idea! You could possibly also try using proton (if you don't mind using Steam) or even try using the Steam version (Steam key is on the download page). I know that works OK because it runs on the Steam Deck. If not, no worries I'll look into updating the linux build. Thanks again!

Thank you :D

Thank you! Feel free to drop a comment on the GitHub issues if there's anything you come up against 😁

Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying the game. I appreciate the offer to compile a mac version - but while the game is still in flux (I have plenty of updates planned 😉) collaborating on multiple builds is just too far out of scope. Once a more final version of the game is on the horizon I'll re-evaluate the mac options available.

You can still build the non-steam version from the source on GitHub - though there may be kinks in the mac version. Someone else has also been working on mac builds - perhaps you could collaborate with them? With that you can copy the assets directory from Steam to the app bundle and copy your characters from %appdata%/Trederia/golf/user/profiles/ on Windows to /users/<user>/library/application support/golf/user/profiles (I think, my mac is *very* rusty). It's rather inconvenient, I admit, although there are bound to be some automated solutions out there, even if it's just a shell script 😅

Thanks again for the support, I really appreciate it! 😁

Thank you!

That's a definite "maybe" - I want to, but native versions are ridiculously complex to build. I can promise that I'll always test every update on Steam Deck hardware and on Manjaro desktop with Proton though, to make sure it works. Being officially verified is very important to me 😁

Hi, I did consider making this possible, but it turned out it would be far too easy for someone to cheat all the achievements on the Steam version by manipulating the user files of the itch version, sorry. The new update is due soon though, and I'm hitting the drone by accident, mostly on the pitch n putt course, more frequently than I'd like 😅 I'm sure it won't be long before you get the achievement again 😁

Hi! Thank you, I'm glad you like it.

Thanks for the detailed feedback, this is the kind of information I thrive on. You're not the first to raise a few of these points, so I'd like to reassure you that many of them have already been addressed and updated for the next release. You do bring up some new points however, so I'll make sure to look into them. Just to clarify:

I agree about the animations - however as a solo dev I'm limited to whichever stock animations I can obtain. I agree entirely about the slightly jarring impact of hitting a ball apparently full pelt and having it drop only a few yards. Unfortunately it's not something I can foreseeably do anything about, although if I find a way I will 😁

The scoreboard can be viewed at any time by holding Tab or Back on the controller. It's missing from the Options graphic, but I'll make sure to add it.

Increased avatar customisation will come later. I'm hoping to add it as a Steam workshop item, so people will be able to add their own, increasing the variety available.

The current release here on itch has slightly broken power values for shots. It also doesn't select a good default club. This has been completely re-done for the next update so that the power bar more intuitively represents a percentage of the club's power. The terrain does affect the shot, I've uploaded a guide to the Steam page which explains how it works - although it's more applicable to the upcoming release rather than the current one. You can read it here.

The restriction on left/right aiming is apparently a much debated topic! There are those who say, justifiably, that in real golf you could hit the ball anywhere you like - however others say that in real golf you wouldn't say 'well the hole is over those trees so I'll just hit it that way' because you don't (or maybe you do?) have a mini map which tells you where the hole lies... so it's a difficult topic to balance. In the upcoming version the direction is still limited, however the angle is much wider. It's also possible to deliberately hook or slice the ball for a further increase in angle if that's a tactic you'd like to employ. It probably sounds a bit weird, I know, but as I get more feedback I'll certainly try to refine it.

The club range is designed to try and best fit the game, rather than reflect an actual set of golf clubs. Similarly to the par values - for instance there are no par 5s simply because the game engine isn't capable of making holes that big. The included range of clubs are enough to play the game tactically enough that it's competitive, without overwhelming players who aren't well experienced with golf. The auto selection is fixed for the next release, and I have vague notions of a 'shop' which allow you to buy different clubs based on experience, although there's no solid plan for that yet. Perhaps based on your and other player's feedback I can refine that idea in the future.

I agree the greens could use some work, if at least visually. It already irks me that many of them have stripes which don't go in the same direction as the fairway 😅. I've worked to refine them for the next update (and the update after that which is already being worked on!) so I'll take this under consideration, particularly the transition from fairway to green.

Tournaments and other gameplay modes have been on my list for a long time, but have not been implemented for weird technical reasons involving the layout of the lobby menu 🙄 This will first be addressed as I redesign it to allow for custom courses and course thumbnails to preview the selected course, at which point I hope to add extended gameplay modes as part of the game rule selection that currently covers matchplay/skins/gimme rules etc.

I could possibly make the scoreboard show a little longer, although as I mentioned you can view it at any time with tab / back button. The problem is that in multiplayer games online if someone refuses to acknowledge the scores it holds up the entire game. I'll spend some time trying to find a better solution to this. I'll definitely remove the zeros from unplayed holes - it won't be in the initial Steam release, but certainly in the first update afterwards.

Showing your own score at all time would be nice. I'll try to add this.

Imperial measurements are not what I'm used to, so I have to apologise for any inconsistencies. I'll make sure the putter values and the green values at least match up, and stick with yards rather than feet.

Again, as mentioned, the overall power/aim/distance of clubs have been overhauled, hopefully for the better 😄. It's one of the things I've worked hardest on improving.

The sound effects are, as a solo developer, what I can get my hands on 😁. The voices do vary between avatars, although you can always turn down the voice effects from the options menu (scroll through the selection at the top of the first page, it lets you set the volume for different groups of sounds) - or failing that just delete the sound file from the assets directory. It won' t break the game 😁

Computer opponents are completely rewritten for the next update. Without getting technical you'll just have to take my word that they're a lot better - although there is a brief overview here.

Thanks for taking the time to provide the feedback! I'm glad you're enjoying what you've played so far. The Steam release / next update is by no means the last, and I try to take in everyone's opinion and balance them as best I can. I hope you enjoy it once it's released!

Hi! Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying it! As far as I'm aware there is currently nowhere dedicated to sharing content, however I am planning a post-release update for the Steam version to add workshop support for custom courses and custom balls 😁

Hey! Sorry you have this problem. You can check to make sure the settings are being saved OK by opening the options menu, then closing it again (this forces the game to save the config file) then press F1 to open the game's console. In the console window there should be a message stating whether or not the file was saved successfully:

You can navigate to this directory to make sure (you may need to enable hidden folders, or use the %appdata% shortcut in windows) and then open cfg.cfg in a text editor. Make sure width, height and window_size are set as appropriate. You can even edit these and try launching the game again - if you accidentally put invalid settings and the game won't launch just delete the file.

If you're able to create a larger window, but the resolution still looks wrong try disabling 'pixel scaling' in the options menu. When this is enabled it takes a 640x480 resolution and stretches it to fill the window creating large retro(ish) pixels. By disabling it you will get the window's native resolution. If your keyboard has a number pad the + and - buttons can be used to toggle pixel scaling at any time, so you can quickly see how it affects the look of the game.

The game's default fullscreen mode is in fact borderless window - there's no fullscreen mode which completely takes control of the display as some other games do. Fullscreen mode will always set the resolution to match your current display. There's also a keyboard shortcut to toggle fullscreen at any time - alt+enter. Hope this helps!

Hi! Thank you for the detailed post - I really appreciate feedback like this as it helps me to dial in the game. To address your points:

1. I'm inclined to agree with this - it's one of those things that I've gotten so used to now that it has fallen by the way. I'll definitely look into making this more intuitive for the next update.
2. Again, I agree. In hindsight it seems quite unfair that not every player gets to attempt the same shot. I guess this is a tell that I tend to play against the computer more than other human beings 😅. I'll modify the behaviour so that the wind only changes when the hole does.
3. This is a bug 😔 It used to auto-suggest a club based on distance, I'm not sure where or when it broke... I'll fix it 😁
4. This is a good idea. I'll tie it in with the flag beacon, so that players will have the option to turn it off and choose its colour. While red is a common choice colour-blind players will often choose blue or yellow as to them red is usually invisible or hard to see on a predominantly green background.

If you'd like to track the progress of the updates follow me on Twitter, as I post most often there. Thanks again for the feedback, it really is the people who share their thoughts who help steer and fine-tune the game. I'm glad you're enjoying it! By the way, if you haven't already, check out Tee Time Golf on Steam. There's no affiliation, I just think it's one of the better full-sized golf games available 😁

Hi. The game is stand-alone so doesn't require an emulator. Which version do you have (windows, linux, etc)? And which graphics card do you have? Usually if the game doesn't launch it means your GPU doesn't support OpenGL 4.1 or higher, although on linux there may be some missing libraries. On windows if you go to %appdata%/Trederia/golf/ there should be a file called output.log which contains any error messages that may have been printed. On linux running the game from the terminal should print any errors there. If you find any error messages, post them here. Thanks!

Thank you! 😄

Thank you 😁

Happy to help, glad you fixed it! Thank you for the kind words and your support 😁

Hi! Sorry you've had this problem. You can reset the game settings to default by going to c:/users/<username>/AppData/Roaming/Trederia/golf and deleting prefs.cfg. Or if you don't want to reset all settings, open prefs.cfg in a text editor and change use_post_process = true to use_post_process = false. 

Thank you! I'm glad you've been enjoying it. I shall definitely look into improving the AI in a future update 🤖